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Always a hands-on learner and good communicator, Dave gravitated toward law enforcement. As an openly gay police officer, he would attend Fran’s Place, Dominic’s, and Josephs. Fran’s Place was his “home base,” where he became a regular DJ. His interview discusses the dangerous environment for gay men in the 1980s, gay bashing, harassment from fellow officers, and the joy of wearing his uniform in the Gay Pride Parade as part of the Gay Officers Action League. \u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDave Granese is a retired police officer who served for 39 years in the Suffolk County Sheriff\u0026rsquo;s Department. Born in 1962, Dave and his family moved from East Boston to another Italian American community in Revere, where he would spend his childhood and teen years. His family instilled in him the values of respect, which he would exhibit in his life and role as a police officer. He is a 1981 graduate of Revere High School and Northeast Regional Technical High School, where he specialized in electronics. Always a hands-on learner and good communicator, Dave gravitated toward law enforcement. As an openly gay police officer, he would attend Fran\u0026rsquo;s Place, Dominic\u0026rsquo;s, and Josephs. Fran\u0026rsquo;s Place was his \u0026ldquo;home base,\u0026rdquo; where he became a regular DJ. His interview discusses the dangerous environment for gay men in the 1980s, gay bashing, harassment from fellow officers, and the joy of wearing his uniform in the Gay Pride Parade as part of the Gay Officers Action League.\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Through A Rainbow Lens"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Through A Rainbow Lens"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/255/original/Aviary_TRL_Header.png?1704389184","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/240/167/small/open-uri20240505-2220384-vlbw56_1714912670.jpg?1714898274","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - open-uri20240505-2220384-vlbw56.mp4"]},"duration":3083.389,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/240/167/small/open-uri20240505-2220384-vlbw56_1714912670.jpg?1714898274","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-unitedlynnpride.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/240/167/original/open-uri20240505-2220384-vlbw56.mp4?1714898266","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3083.389,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["David Granese transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nToday's date is April 19, 2024. My name is Andrew Darien, I'm a Professor of History at Salem State University, and I'm conducting this interview as part of the Mass Humanities-funded project \"Through a Rainbow Lens: a reflection on lens LGBTQ+ History.\" I have the honor of being joined today by Dave Granese, who is a town counselor in Gary, New Hampshire. Dave grew up in Revere, he served for thirty-nine years in the Suffolk County Sheriff's Department, and he held multiple positions as a DJ and operations manager in beloved Lynn bars like Fran's Place and 47 Central. Thanks so much for being here today, Dave.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2.0,47.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nHow you doing? It's my pleasure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=47.0,49.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAlright, great! Can I just confirm that I have your permission to record this conversation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=49.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah. Absolutely. You do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=55.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAlright. Thanks a lot. So, you were born in East Boston, and you were raised in Revere. I thought maybe we could start by you telling me a little bit about your family and the neighborhood that you grew up in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=57.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nAlright. Like you said, I was born East Boston, on Bennington Street, in a triple decker. I have one sister. It was four of us: [Myself,] my [two] parents, my sister. We moved out of East Boston. When I was going in[to] the sixth grade, my folks bought a house in Revere up on— towards Woodlawn, over by Everett. I went to Revere Schools: six [and] seventh [grades], and all through the high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=72.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat would you describe your neighborhood?— like where you grew up in Revere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=100.0,107.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nIt was very..... back then, it was very neighborly— everybody talked to everybody, we all hung out at night. You know, when I was young, when the street lights come on, we had to go on a house, and everybody just got along with everybody. It was very..... Revere was very Italian where we grew up. Everybody just looked out for everybody. It was very comforting the way it was back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=107.0,132.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWas your family very religious?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=132.0,136.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYes. Yeah. They were involved with the Saint Anthony's Church in Revere and the Holy Name Society. I went through all that stuff, and [had to] go to Sunday school, and everything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=136.0,147.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you remember what you thought of [going to church], as a young child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=147.0,153.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nIt was something that I was like, \"What did I get myself into?\" But, you know, growing up Catholic, you have to go through Sunday School, and get confirmed, and get involved in the church. [I] went to all the church fundraisers and everything —And that was more....part of the Italian heritage that I grew up in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=153.0,172.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\n[It was] maybe more— as much about community and tradition [than] it was about religion itself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=172.0,179.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nExactly. It was more definitely about community, than it was the religion part. But then all the community part— San Anthony's was the biggest church in Revere, and they were very community orientated, and they used to have festivals and functions. They actually did a lot for the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=179.0,196.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd did you have much extended family nearby?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=196.0,201.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah, all my Aunts. The whole family basically grew up in East Boston, so everybody was either in East Boston or Winthrup. And as everybody got older, we moved out East Boston [and] went to Revere, Saugus, Peabody... But everyone stayed around the same same area.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=201.0,218.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat kind of values do you think you learned growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=218.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI would say treat, you know, like— I was always brought up to treat people the way you want to be treated. If you don't have anything nice to say about anybody, don't say it at all. I think that was the main focus. If you don't.... if you work hard for something, and then if you could help somebody, help that person because someday someone might go and help you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=226.0,254.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHow do you think your parents would have described you as a young child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=254.0,264.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nProbably crazy. I don't know; that's a tough one. I mean, I wasn't involved in a lot of stuff when I was in high school, and even [was uninvoled] when I was younger. I like[d] to keep busy, was never a troublemaker. They probably— if my dad was alive today, he'd probably say he was a good kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=264.0,284.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo what.... tell me about the crazy part.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=284.0,290.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nPorbably chasing my sister around the house, y'know? She's a yay younger than me, and just doing stupid kid stuff. Back in East Boston, there was— where we lived, there was a whole marsh area and we used to put forts in the marsh, and then burn all the forts down. We used to jump the blue line train in Suffolk Down's train station. We used to ride the blue line all the time and get chased by the Boston Police because we didn't pay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=290.0,319.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThat was your initiation into policing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=319.0,322.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah, I was about probably eight or nine years old when we were doing that. We were young.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=322.0,329.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you remember having an idea of what you wanted to be when you grew up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=329.0,337.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah. I always wanted to get into electronics. I was always.... I had a [Citizen Band (CB) Radio] for forever in my house, and antennas on the house, and my father's car before I got my license. Very involved with that. That was a big thing back in the seventies and early eighties: everybody had CBs. There was no cell phones, there was no AOL, or any of the social media [around today] or anything. That's the way we communicated— that's why I wanted to get into electronics. So, I went to Revere High and I got involved with a high school TV station for the four years [I spent there]. I went to the electronic school, their classes there, then I went to the Northeast Region Vocational High School in Wakefield: they had an afternoon program for electronic communication. That was my plan: to get into electronic communications. I went to Wentworth [Institute of Technology], for about a year. Underneath that, I had a internship at Channel Four in Boston, and— that was my plan: to be electronic engineer and doing all the remote and satellite [communications]. [But] I just decided college college wasn't for me. Oh, I went— I got involved in [the] Revere police [department], and auxiliary police in Revere, and that's when I started. I said, \"I have to do something.\" That's how I got involved in law enforcement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=337.0,413.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nI can hear your passion for electronics and engineering type things in your voice. It makes perfect sense that you went to New England Regional Tech. Tell me a little bit about how that fizzled out. Or did did you not feel like they prepared you well? Did you change your interests? What happened?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=413.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo. It wasn't that. I was very interested. I did very well in high school and graduated both high schools. I think it was more the study[ing] part and the math part of going to college, because when I decided to leave, one of my professors said, \"You should stick it out.\" —because I did very well on the technical stuff/ But when it came to the bookwork, I would read a paragraph and get lost. I was better at [the] hands on [work] than I was [at] doing the mathematical equations. I think that was a downfall of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=434.0,472.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThat's not uncommon. We know plenty of people who are brilliant in terms of book smarts, and completely incompetent when it comes to doing anything with their hands. Did you date it all when you were in high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=472.0,489.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah. I had girlfriends here and there through high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=489.0,495.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you remember the first time you had a crush on a boy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=495.0,502.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\n[It was] probably [around] Sophomore year. I hadn't— there was some friends in high school that, you know..... we always hung out and everything, and never really did anything. But, you kinda look at people and then you see them in the locker room, and I just thought maybe it was a a phase of something going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=502.0,527.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you wanna tell me a little bit about how your thinking and identity kind of evolved during that time and afterwards?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=527.0,537.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think a lot had to do with— after I graduated high school, I had a couple of girlfriends, and I had a girlfriend [where] we got engaged. And at the same time, I was working— this [was] before I got into law enforcement —I was managing a service station in Revere, and one of the guys that worked with was four, five years older than me, and I was nineteen, I think, at the time. He says, \"Oh, let's go up to a club.\" They brought me to a club. I had no idea where I was going. We went into Boston, and we went into this back alley. We go[t] to a door, [and] he knocks on the door. The door opens, and there's a guy standing there with a big trench coat on, and he knew him. He gives him a hug and a kiss. I'm like, \"Okay. It's an Italian— that's what Italians do.\" And then we walked down a hallway, and now there was a woman behind a window. She's like, \"he—\".....she knew him. [My friend] said, \"He's with me.\" I remember giving him money, for [a] cover charge or something. We go through another door, and now I start hearing the bass of music. We go through another door and we walk into a night club, and I'm like, \"Okay, where are we?\" He goes, \"We're at Chaps in Boston.\" I looked around, and I was like, \"Oh, there's all guys here.\" ...and that was my first time in a gay nightclub. That's when I was like, \"Wow!\" I said, \"This is something different.\" And I've always had failings about my sexuality, and I think that's what kinda opened the door for me— [wa]s to see these people are out, they're comfortable. They're having a great time amongst themselves, and they're not afraid of what people outside are gonna think about it. Because back then, you would never see anybody— two guys or two women —holding hands, or hugging, and kissing in the public. It just wasn't, you know.... you heard stories of all the gay bashin' and stuff back then. I think that kinda opened my eyes [on] everything, and then from that point on, I started experimenting with men. [My girlfriend at the time and I] were gonna get— I was engaged, like I said, and we were gonna get married and [she] come to find out [that] I was having little relationships with guys at the same time. We ended up breaking it off. And then I [thought], \"I met a guy,\" —and I just said, \"Wow, I get along better with him than I do with women,\" and I said, \"Well, I'm gay,\" and it just evolved from that point on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=537.0,684.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you think that coworker that took you to the club in Boston... do you think he kind-of knew that maybe you were ready for something like this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=684.0,697.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think so. I haven't talked to him in a long time —probably [about] ten years [ago], but we talked about it one day. At the time, he was married. They've never had children— he's married to a woman. He's always had a relationship with a guy. So, he's had two relationships basically his whole life. And I think maybe he saw something in me and said, \"Hey, he's really not straight. He's gay.\" And, you know, that— that could have been what happened.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=697.0,729.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAre you nervous?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=729.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNot really. No. I was— I think if you told me where we were going, I'd be like, \"Yeah, no way,\" because I'd be afraid of someone coming in and beating us up, or something because, like I said, back then people [got] beat up because it wasn't accepted. And then when I walked in the place, I said, \"Wow, this is really nice.\" You know? \"No one knows we're here.\" The windows were darkened, and there was no signs in the building. If you didn't know it was there, you would just walk by the place and have no idea what going on inside. That made me very, very comfortable.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=732.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you know anyone who is gay in high school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=768.0,773.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo. Not at all. I mean, I think back..... I probably had— there was some suspicions and people......you know high school kids: they would talk, and they'd be like, \"Oh, yeah. That one's a fag. This one's gay.\" Blah blah blah. You know how people talk. And so I just.... like I said, I had my suspicions. But I definitely [couldn't] confirm anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=773.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you ever use the word fag as a slur?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=796.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo. Never.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=800.0,803.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nIs that just part of your general upbringing of [having] respect?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=803.0,808.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI would say yes. The other thing is, like I said, my folks taught me [to] treat people the way I wanna get treated. And when I went to the vocational high school, I met people from different ethnic backgrounds which I think helped broaden me, and [helped ]open my eyes up because Revere was very [diverse]: one section was Italian, one section was Jewish, one section was Irish, and everybody stayed in their own section back then. When I went to the vocational school, I was going to school with people from Chelsea. I ended up with Spanish friends and black friends. When I was a sophomore in high school, in my neighborhood— which [was] all white Italians —a Black family moved in, and [the son] became part of the group. It was like fifteen of us that hung out together. He was in my homeroom, and we became best friends. I think being around that in my early days opened my eyes to definitely being [pro] equality, and treating people [as] equal[s].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=808.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nIt sounds like when you're under the cover of secrecy in this club, you feel safe and comfortable. I imagine that's not something that you're talking about outside of the club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=871.0,887.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo. No. [I was] very, very secretive. I ended up.... when I started, seeing a guy that I met at the club, we were very, like.....we'd walk like three feet apart going down street, and then we'd go into a place. Either I'd walk in first, or he would walk in first. And it was very— you know? [When] we'd drive in the car, we'd make sure [we were] both on [either] ends of the car and that's just how it was back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=887.0,916.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAt what point did you feel comfortable talking to other people about your identity?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=916.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI would probably say.... I confided— when I was twenty two, I believe —I confided [that I was not straight] to some some friends, and I lost a lot of friends because of that. I was dating this guy that I really was serious with. I thought— I said, \"Oh, yeah. This guy I'm gonna be with for the rest of my life,\" so I started telling people because I said, \"If we're gonna go out, people are gonna see us.\" And I had really good friends, and some of the people that I was friends with [would say] \"Oh, that's cool.\" You know? \"No big deal,\" \"My sister's like that,\" or \"My brother's like that,\" or \"My cousins like that.\" And then, from that point on, I ended up telling my family, and I came out at my job. By then I was working for the sheriff's department. I was twenty...twenty one and a half, when I started working there, and I came out to the superintendent then, and they were very supportive. The commissioner was very supportive. I mean, I had some friends at work that wouldn't talk to me, and they would say, \"Hey, we don't—\" something would happen, and they'd be like, \"Yeah, we don't want Dave coming in here because he's gay.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=924.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWould they say that directly to you or behind your back?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=992.0,996.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nBoth. They would say in front of me, to me, behind my back. They would say it over the radio. And I think [that happened] a lot because it was the AIDS epidemic, and everybody was afraid of that. Everybody thought if you were near somebody back then, that you would catch HIV and AIDS, which isn't (of course) true.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=996.0,1019.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat was it like to hearing your coworkers, your supposed \"brothers\", talking about you like that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1019.0,1028.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nIt actually bothered me a little bit. I lucked out because I had a great career. I became a supervisor, a sergeant, after, like, two and a half years in the department, and then nine months later, I became a lieutenant. So I think I— I had the support of my command staff, and I think that because of that, I was actually.... I I felt a little..... I don't know? I guess [I felt] more protected, and I didn't let anything bother me. I said, \"This is how I am.\" I still went into all the incidents, went into the fights. I was still, like, the first person [on scene], and it never changed me. And even [if] someone who would talk about me, and write about me in on notes, and on my locker, and [if] someone keyed my car, I [would] still back that person up because that wasn't me. You know? I just couldn't [not back them up] because they hated me, [but that didn't mean] hate[d] them, because they they just didn't know. They didn't understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1028.0,1089.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThat seems remarkably tolerant of you. Did you ever feel unsafe, or even angry about this hatred directed at you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1089.0,1104.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah. I would say unsafe: no. I felt safe always at my job. But, angry? Yeah, I was angry. I just....I was more angry at the people that I would see out in the night clubs that were pretending that they were straight, and being married, or with girlfriends. And I would see them out, and they would come up to me and be like, \"You can't say anything.\" And I go, \"I would never, because that's not me.\" But then they'd go to work, and they'd be the first ones to say something negative about me, or a coworker who was either gay or lesbian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1104.0,1137.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nOh, wow. When did you start first going to bars in Lynn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1137.0,1145.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nSo, the first bar I went to in Lynn [was the one] the guy that I was working with [at] the gas station took me to. I think I was twenty? [We] went to Dominic's, which was at the corner of Washington, I think, [the adress was ] 107. It was more like a— it was a guy's bar, it was very seedy. Come to find out, it was known for, I guess, all the hustlers in the area [that were] staying out there. One thing I remember about it: they had a rotisserie chicken stand in there, which I thought was kinda funny, and I looked at it one day, and it was just disgusting. I go, \"Who'd go to a bar to buy rotisserie chicken??\" It's one of those stupid things that I remember about it. Then we ended up going down to Fran's Place. Back then, Fran's Place was known more of a lesbian— woman's —bar versus a men's bar. Then we found Joseph's in Lynn, and we started going there. That was a small place: I think it held, like, thirty people, forty people. Joe [and] Carl owned it. I was like, twenty one [when I] started going there: twenty one, or twenty two. They played videos, and it was more like, you know, a man's bar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1145.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat were the demographics of these bars? I mean, you talked a little bit about Fran's, at that time, was more of a lesbian bar. What about, like, racial diversity and ethnic diversity?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1208.0,1227.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYou would see everybody from— you'd see: white people, Spanish people, black people. There was some Hatian people hanging in there. It was very, very diverse. I mean, Lynn... it was a community that's [predominantly] Spanish-Latino, so [you] would see them come in. Then in the [other] bars like Joseph, you'd see people from, like, Salem, and Revere, and Lynn come in. I guess it was very diverse.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1227.0,1255.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you feel like some of those racial and ethnic barriers were broken down within the gay community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1255.0,1265.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think so, yeah. Because everybody saw.....When you went into a bar back then, you knew that was a safe space: that no one could come in and hurt you. I think everybody got along. You left the stigma of everything: that [stigma that] sometimes people [who] were brought up the wrong way [had]. They weren't brought up to treat people fairly and equal. [The bar-goers] left those stigmas outside the bar before they entered because every everybody was in there for the same reason: just to [have] a safe place to drink, enjoy, be yourself, you know?With no judgment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1265.0,1299.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWould people ever be harassed going into, or coming out of, the bars?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1299.0,1305.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI don't remember anything in Lynn. I remember going to a bar in Boston— I think I was, like, twenty four —I was walking down the street, I parked, we were going to a video bar called Luxors in the South End. I was meeting some friends there. At that time, there was a big thing going around Boston [where] people, gay men, were getting hit over the head with hammers and bricks [while] going into bars. There was a lot of gay bashing. The Fens was a very cruise area at night for men, and they were getting robbed, and beat up. I remember walking down the side street going to Luxor, and [there] was a group of, black black guys sitting on the front porch, and they were like, \"Hey!\" And I was like, \"Hey, what's up?\" And they were like, \"Where you going? That fag bar?\" I go, \"Why? What's up?\" He said, \"Oh, we're gonna—\" \"There's some guys going in,\" and they were friends of mine walking up the street. And they says, \"We're gonna beat them up,\" and I noticed they had hammers and stuff, and they walked in front of me. And I kinda pointed to one of my friends, he was a Boston cop, and [it] ended up [that] I had my firearm on me, and he had his firearm, and they didn't get too far! It was kinda crazy back in the day.I would say.... I think that was, like, the mid eighties? Like, eighty five, eighty six, eighty seven? Somewhere around there. There was a lot of gay bashing going on. But as far as Lynn, I don't remember any anything like that happening in Lynn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1305.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you see any victims of gay bashing as a police officer?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1394.0,1400.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah, I did. In my early career, I did. Yes. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1400.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnything come to mind specifically?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1407.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nIt it was hard to see because I had friends who were gay bashed, and a lot of it was late night, walking by themselves, you know? Coming out of a night club or a bar, going to a cruise area. It just— it was sad. You know? It was sad to see that back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1411.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHow did your DJ career get started?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1433.0,1437.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI was always into the music. Years ago, I always had, like... a little mixing board. I['d] just buy the cassettes and vinyl, and I always like play— made my own tapes and stuff, my little cassette tapes, that no one knows about now, [or] back then. I guess we started going to Fran's. My husband, Tony, worked at Fran's: he got a job bartending at Fran's. [This was] probably a couple of years before I started working there. I knew the DJ, Paul C., who worked there, because he worked at another night club that I used to do the police detail [for] in Revere. So, that's how I knew him. He would work on Friday / Saturday. I ended up going to Fran's, and ended up meeting Tom and Jay, the owners of Fran's, and Tish, the manager, and ended up talking to Jay one day. I said, \"Hey, look, you guys looking for a DJ?\" —because they were just about getting ready to remodel the whole the whole place. They were gonna put in a sunken dance floor in, new lighting, new sound system, and redo everything, and take out....they had like a side tiki bar [that] they took out. And then, he was like, \"I don't know.\" I said, \"Well, I have a tape.\" I said, \"I'll bring a tape next time.\" So I gave him a tape, and he ended up hiring me on— I started working Saturday nights there. That's how he started working in Fran's Place. I think that was in ninety four or ninety five? Somewhere around there. And it kinda, like, went from there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1437.0,1520.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat kind of music did you play?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1520.0,1522.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI like vocal, house music. I've always, like.... you go to the bars in Boston and everything was vocal. I like to dance, and I realized like.... Guys like to dance to— everybody likes to dance the music they can sing along with. You know? It's not [just] that thumping bass, that techno stuff, but it's more like vocal: Madonna, Cher. Back then, they were huge. Whitney Houston. You know? The Village People. All those great songs that you can dance to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1522.0,1556.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nMhmm. Tell me— I guess it was in Fran's —but tell me about how you and Tony met one another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1556.0,1565.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nSo this year, we've been together thirty years, and also married nine. We met in Salem, Mass. My first place that I bought was in Salem, Mass: it was a condo. I met some friends and we were out one day, and they were like, \"Hey, Salem has a cruise area behind the courthouse.\" That's where people go and meet people and stuff because there really wasn't too much social media [back then]. That's where I met my husband. He'll kill me for saying that, but that's that's exactly where we met.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1565.0,1602.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd did you know right away that this was potentially somebody you'd wanna spend the rest of your life with? Or we're not thinking like that at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1602.0,1613.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think after hanging out. Before Tony, I had two other serious relationships that lasted about two years Then I met Tony while my second one was ending, and I don't know. We just kinda like hit it off. I mean, there's ten years between us. I was thirty one, and he was twenty one. And I was like, \"Oh, he's younger.\" But then after hanging out, I go, \"Well, we'd get along really good.\" He didn't care about what I did for work, and so I just— I dunno. Just the match [was there between us]. I think we just connected and thirty years later, here we are today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1613.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nYou were talking, a little bit earlier, about some of your coworkers operating with myths about gay people and HIV. Tell me a little bit about how you felt about HIV and AIDS in the eighties. I mean, how did you first come to learn about it? And, how did it affect you, your community? Were you afraid for yourself?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1653.0,1684.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI would say back then: Yes. Definitely. I was afraid. Everybody else was afraid. It was like.... no one had any idea what was going on. People were dying, people were getting sick. And I think it was Doctor Fauci, I think it was him that actually figured out what the virus was and what was happening. And, everybody was like, \"Don't touch anybody,\" until the community realized how [AIDS is] transmitted. [Now we know] it's blood-born and semen-born. The whole thing back then was, like, no one wanted to kiss. No one would kiss anybody, touch anybody, because they were afraid until we learnt exactly how the disease was transmitted. There was huge— Before other medications and stuff, it was about safe sex and everybody [was] going around and trying to educate everybody. It was sad. I lost a lot of friends. I lost actually the two people that I had serious relationship with both died of the disease. It was horrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1684.0,1756.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nIt must have been it must have been terrible. And what years was that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1756.0,1764.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nThat they passed away?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1764.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nMhmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1766.0,1768.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nWow. I don't, uh.... [I'm] trying to remember. I would say it had to be...maybe the the first one was maybe early nineties? And the other one [was] like, maybe, mid nineties? The first guy I was going out with, he actually was— he got into another relationship, and he was living in New York, and I just remember talking to him, and he told me [he had AIDS]. Then he went downhill in, like, three months because, back then, I think the only medication that was ATZ. It just—it... it.... was horrible. It was horrible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1768.0,1804.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you get it all involved in AIDS activism?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1804.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo. I didn't. I didn't get too involved in that. I ended up getting involved with a Gay Officers Action League [GOAL] in New England. So, that kinda kept a lot of my time up [being] involved with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1810.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nTell me a little bit about them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1826.0,1829.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nIt was a group that was formed by a retired MBTA officer, Preston Horton, and it was to get gay and lesbian officers in New England all together. It was a brother/sister organization of GOAL New York. They were the first ones that started it. And it was just to get everybody on the same page: a safe space in law enforcement, and talk about what's going on and in everybody's individual department. [It was also there to] get out there and do outreach training. It was just more camaraderie, because it was hard, a lot, for some people to be on a police or a fire department and [be] gay, [or] not open[ly] gay: gay, lesbian. You had this huge support network [with them]. That's what goal was all about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1829.0,1879.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWas that an open membership? Or was it more quiet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1879.0,1887.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo, it was very open. Open membership. You had either be retired, or active, in law enforcement or [a] first responder. But we marched into gay pride parades in uniform, and we were very out and very vocal. Like, \"We're here. We're gay. We're proud.\" That's what it was about. It was..... and then we had— like— we would go to diversity train different departments. I would tell them my coming out story, and how that happened, and other people would [as well]. [I'd] say, \"Look, no matter who we are, we're still there with you. We're your brother and sister. We're a regular person.\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1887.0,1925.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\n[Do] you feel like you changed a lot of hearts and minds through that activity?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1925.0,1932.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI definitely think so, yeah. I remember being in a couple of small, little department around New England, and New Hampshire, and Maine, and telling them the story, and they were like, \"Wow, this this guy's gay?\" —and [I] explained it. I remember a couple of officers, reaching out to me saying, \"Hey, you got time to talk?\" —and they'd be like, \"Hey, I'm gay. I'm in the closet.\" And you['d] kinda guide people, and you give them resources to talk to people: because a lot of people don't wanna come out of that closet. They were afraid back then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1932.0,1965.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSure. Do you remember your first gay pride parade?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1965.0,1970.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYes, I do. It was a lot of fun!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1970.0,1974.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhen was it and were you uniformed at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1974.0,1979.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nMy first one: no, because I wasn't involved with GOAL. That was, I don't know.....I had to be....I think [I] was twenty five or twenty six? We went to the— we would go to Boston every June— every second Saturday of June —watch the parade, go to the festival, have a great time. and then go to the following Sunday for the festival. But anytime— when I got involved in GOAL New England, I would march in a parade in uniform, and we'd bring cruisers from different departments in the parade, and then we go to the festival and have a great time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=1979.0,2011.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd how old were you, or what year was it, when you first wore your uniform in the parade?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2011.0,2020.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI don't remember, actually. It was prob— it had, it......I don't know if it was before 2000? I'm not sure. I don't remember. Because I remember working at Fran's Place, it was 2001, '2, '3, and '4, I believe, that we actually did a fundraiser and we got a tractor-trailer truck and put Fran's Place in the parade. I was the DJ, and I got the sound system. I guess in the past, they used to have small vehicles, and I said one day to Jay and Tom— because they made me the operations manager plus the resident DJ —\"Hey, let's do something big in in the pride parade,\" because in, I forget what year it was....I think it was 2004 that Fran's Place was voted number three best club in New England. So when I did that— when I was DJ'ing there, I was on the float for Fran's Place versus being matched with the Gay Officers Action League in New England.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2020.0,2082.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThat's great. Do you remember where you were during the 9/11 attacks?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2082.0,2093.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI was actually [on] a day off. I woke up, I turned my TV on. I was like, \"Well, what channel is this? It's a movie. There's a plane that just hit the World Trade Center.\" I thought it was a movie on HBO or something. I get up, got another cup of coffee, and I go back, and I was like, \"This isn't a movie.\" I ended up calling work, and I was like, \"What's going on?\" And I ended up going to work later on that day. It was scary. It was definitely scary. And I was at work. By then I was a captain, and I was a shift commander on the second shift at work, and we had all our radios on. I remember, we had the TV on. I had the TV on in my office, and I remember when they caught them, in that backyard in the boat. I was listening to it on my radio, and we knew about it almost an hour before it was actually on TV.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2093.0,2147.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nYou're talking about the Boston [Marathon Bombings in 2013].","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2147.0,2152.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah. You meant— oh, yeah. Okay. I'm thinking about I'm thinking about the [marathon bombings]. I'm thinking about the Boston Marathon [Bombings] You're right. I [switched] those two together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2152.0,2160.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nI think a lot of people in this area do. And, of course, this past Monday was the marathon, so it's on all of our minds. But, it seems like both of those were really important events for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2160.0,2176.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nYeah. They were. I mean, like......going back to 9/11, like I said, I was off and ended up going to work that day. It was just a crazy day at work because no one knew what was going on. Everything was grounded. I remember there was checkpoints going into work, and [I] had to show my ID to to get down on [Interstate]-93, and it was just [bad] because they shut everything down. Following back to the Boston bombing, I was off that day because it was a holiday, so I had holidays off. So I wasn't working that day, and I was actually home when that happened. And like I said, when they caught [Dzokhar Tsarnaev], we were watching [it] on TV. It was the same thing. No one knew what was going on. It was just two crazy events.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2176.0,2218.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat effect did that have on the way that you did your job?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2218.0,2226.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nFor me, I think [I was] more vigilant. More, like, eyes wide open, you know? Your head's on a swivel— not that my head wasn't [before], my head's always on a swivel because of job I did. But I think for me, and I think just everybody in general, it [wa]s like, \"See something, say something.\" I think it opened everybody's eyes to say, \"Hey, this could happen around here. It's just not happening—\" You know, things happen to the other part of the world, and people always say, \"Oh, it'll never happen here. \"And then when it happens here, it wakes you up a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2226.0,2260.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo, you've lived through a lot of history. Let's maybe a pivot to something a little more positive: marriage equality. Were you ever part of the movement for marriage equality? And what made you decide to finally get married?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2260.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI was always about marriage equality. Boston was one of the first cities to have a domestic partnership, so when they did that I went right up the city hall, and we filed for domestic partnership—that was under Mayor Tom Menino —because we wanted to get married and we couldn't. I said, \"This is the closest, best thing.\" And I put— You know? In that way, I can put, Tony... I could put him on my insurance. He would get my benefits, [unintelligible] if something happened to me. And then I figured— then that ended about, I think it was about a year, a year and a half later. It was a group— I don't know, I forgot where that the group was from down south, and they petitioned.... I don't know if it's a federal judge or something, and they stopped [the domestic partnership laws]. Then the whole movement of marriage and equality started. Yeah. We were very happy about that, and we should've did it right away, [but] we waited. I don't know why. Just timing or whatever. And then, we decided— I proposed to him, we decided to get married. It was nine years ago. October.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2279.0,2343.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhere was the wedding?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2343.0,2345.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nOgunquit, Maine, which shocked him. Ogunquitm you know, it's a very gay, community. I worked in two night clubs actually up in Ogunquit as DJ'ing. [I] said, \"Wanna do it in Ogunquit?\" Tony would have rather just went down the town hall and got married. I said, \"We're gonna do this once in our life, and I want we.... let's have a wedding and have our friends there.\" And we went to a couple of places in Ogunquit and one place, which..... two places actually looked me straight in the face and, said that, \"We don't wanna gay wedding here.\" And I was shocked by one of them because the manager of the place was openly gay, and he was married. I knew his husband and him from working in the night club in Ogunquit, and I kinda got mad at him, and went to another place. And, I walked into the Meadowmere Resort, and I met the owner's daughter. Open arms. She was like, \"Absolutely! We'll do anything you want.\" It was just— and then I went to Jonathan's next door and same thing. It was an awesome time. You know? Everybody— we had a hundred and fifty, hundred and sixty people there. It was a wedding that people still talk about today. All our friends still talk about it/ We didn't want the typical \"sit down, first course, second course.\" We did a buffet: get whatever you want anytime you want. We had a ceremony on the grounds of the Meadowmere. It was a big party. Then we surprised everybody during it. We have friend of ours who was DJ'ing, and I used to play a song [when I was DJ'ing], \"I Just Wanna Fucking Dance\" by the Jerry Springer Opera. We used to play it about midnight at the clubs in Ogunquit, and everybody would go crazy. And I said, \"Let's do that midway through our reception,\" and we all took our shirts off. I had friends that were police officers in New Hampshire, and it was like fifteen or twenty of us, and we only knew— and the DJ knew —what we were doing, and no one else knew. It was like one of those things that [is] spontaneous, and we just had a great time. It was fun. It was a great time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2345.0,2470.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHow do you think marriage equality has affected the gay community? Both in terms of themselves, but also outside perceptions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2470.0,2488.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think— like I said earlier, everybody should be treated equally and fair. You know? People who are in love, no matter who you are or what you are, they should be able to get married, for the reason of protection. Going back, Tony and I were together about three years, his lung collapsed one night. We were at Fran's Place. [I] ended up taking him to the hospital. We were just— we weren't domestic partners, we were just boyfriends. [We] go to the hospital. Luckily, the head nurse there, said, \"Look, I'm not supposed to let you in there.\" He was in intensive care, but [she said,] \"I'm letting you in there.\" She was very progressive, because back then I could never go in there and see him, and I used to spend nights there with him. So I think marriage equality is..... it protects everybody because if that didn't happen back then... [coughs], excuse me. I would have never been able to go in and see him. Like, if something happens to either him or I, he has the benefits of my retirement and protections, you know? Why shouldn't we have marriage equality? It's huge. The only thing I see what's going on is the younger generation...... I've had friends..... y'know, they're together six months and they get married, then they divorced in three years. I think that happens in the real world with everybody. So, I think if someone's gonna think about getting married, make sure it's something you wanna do: no matter who you are, and make the right decision.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2488.0,2588.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you think gay marriage has led to any greater acceptance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2588.0,2596.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think so. Yeah. I definitely think so. I think people people probably look at it— I'm sure there's still people who are negative about it: who don't think that two men or two women should be married. But I think it makes everybody more more acceptable. [Coughs] Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2596.0,2618.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nIt's alright. They're were at least a dozen gay bars in Lynn. They're all gone now. That's somewhat of a national phenomenon. What in your mind happened to all the gay bars?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2618.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think.....Well, I remember when AOL started and social media started. That was the downfall of the bars. Then I think equality was the other downfall at a bar and the night clubs. Because we always....... Before that, we had to go to a gay night club or gay establishment to not be afraid of being harassed, or being beat up or anything. And I think with the equality that we fought for—which I'm totally for —everything's more open, and we can anybody can go anywhere they want now. There is still some gay bars around, but I think that back then, like Fran's Place, we would call it \"Home Base.\" So no matter what, we would go to Home Base and that'd be Fran's Place. I think when we were able to go to every other place, I think people lost that \"home base\" and said, \"Hey, we're not gonna go there. We're gonna go here. We're gonna go different places,\" ....and I think that was the downfall of a lot of the smaller establishments that couldn't keep up the clientele.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2636.0,2707.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo, to what degree do you feel like this is a marker of success versus loss?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2707.0,2716.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think it's— I think it's more success than loss for the reason of: it was a safe space for a lot of people, and a lot of people that I know, because they went to those safe places, were comfortable to come out and actually live their lives the way they should be living their lives, instead of inside of a closet, being recluse, worried about what people [were] gonna say about them. That's just my my opinion. I think for the whole thing: Yeah, we lost all those great establishments. But I think in the long run, it's for the best. iIt's like anything else: everything changes, everything has [cycles of] ten, fifteen years. I mean, even the places in Boston, it's not the same. But it's better because everybody's progressing now. We can go down the street holding hands, and kissing in public, and not have to worry about anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2716.0,2773.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, there's no question in the larger time period: forty, fifty years that we're talking about, there have been an incredible number of progressive changes for LGBTQ+ rights. Yet, at the same time, in the last five to ten years, it feels like there's a little bit of a backlash against that community. Is that something that you've noticed? And if so, why do you think that's happening?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2773.0,2805.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nDefinitely noticed. Especially more in the trans community. I think a lot has to do with.... when we.... before equality, we would be out there. We would be in the pride parades. We'd be like, \"Oh, we want equality,\" —fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting, and we don't have to do that anymore. I think because of that, people—...... Yeah. There's equality, bu I think people don't look at us the same way. It's like, going back to when I was involved with GOAL New England, we would do the diversity training to departments, and people would look at us and say, \"Oh, yeah. These are real people.\" We stopped that, and the whole— they started treating people differently. [A] police officer would stop two men, and they would say something derogatory to them. I think that's probably what's happening now. I think there's a reversal of everything. I hate to talk about politics, but I think a lot has to do with the political landscape going on and all that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2805.0,2881.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnything specific?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2881.0,2886.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nLike I said, I don't really like to talk about politics. But I think, you have the these groups, these radical groups, that are driven [by] hatred, and I think they just go against everybody. Hatred. And I think I.....I'd rather just stop. I don't wanna get too involved with the politics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2886.0,2912.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, let me ask you then, as we're kind of approaching the end, on the whole, do you feel optimistic or pessimistic about the future of these rights that have been won?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2912.0,2929.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nI think definitely optimistic. I think there's still a fight that the LGBTQ+ community needs to fight. I think it's like any other community: if you sit in the background, people will forget about you and walk all over you. I still think there's probably more rights and and more equality that that everybody should have, because you still see in parts of the country that people aren't treated the same way they [are] treated up here in Maine, New Hampshire, Massachusetts, and New York. You go down south and people are treated so differently down there. No matter....even the gay and lesbian community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2929.0,2973.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nLast question: what do you think younger people should know or understand about LGBTQ+ people from your generation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2973.0,2987.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nWell, I think that..... you know what: don't take any for granted. I remember when I first went out to a club. I was young, and I was talking to people my age [now]: sixty, sixty one. They would tell me what they had to go through. They went to clubs that when [they were clubbing], they had people looking out [for] when the police would come in [and] they would raid them. They'd turn the flashing lights, and they'd have to shut the music off and flip over tables and pretend they're playing cards, and they would come in. The police would come in and call them, like, \"Oh, we're go into the fruit basket,\" back then. I think, the generations before me fought for it, and my generation kept on fighting for equality. Just don't take any [of that] for granted. There's a lot of outreach and more support now than it ever was. So anybody who has had any questions about their sexuality, or the gender that they were born with: reach out to people. Ask for help. There's a ton of places, ton of resources. Google it, go ask people you know. Even if you see somebody who has a rainbow watch or something—even if they're ninety years old —go up to them and say, \"Hey, can I ask you question?\" Just don't be afraid. Just ask the question, get the support. That all I ask the younger generation to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=2987.0,3071.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, thank you for that concluding thought! And thank you for sharing your life story!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167#t=3071.0,3076.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/128657/file/240167/transcript/68889/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"David Granese\n\nNo problem. Anytime! I appreciate it. 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