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Her interview talks about working at the Boston GLASS (GLBTQ+ Adolescent Social Services) until she left for law school. She would eventually return to Massachusetts to live in Lynn, where she resides with her wife, Katie, and two children. Through the group Lynn Parents Organizing for a Better Education (LPOBE), she lobbied the school committee to sever ties with Gordon College due to its discriminatory policies toward LGBTQ+ people. She is the Senior Civil Rights Attorney at the U.S. Department of Education, Office for Civil Rights.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eBorn in 1978, Moniz and her sisters were raised by her mother, who had immigrated from Sao Miguel Island in Portugal. They lived with extended family in Cambridge and Somerville but eventually moved to Medford. Carla is a graduate of Medford High School (1996), the University of Massachusetts, Boston (2003), and the City University of New York Law School (1996). She started the GSA in Medford and endured harassment from classmates and adult members of the community. Despite these barriers, Carla was supported by BAGLY (the Boston Alliance of LGBTQ+ Youth). Her interview talks about working at the Boston GLASS (GLBTQ+ Adolescent Social Services) until she left for law school. She would eventually return to Massachusetts to live in Lynn, where she resides with her wife, Katie, and two children. Through the group Lynn Parents Organizing for a Better Education (LPOBE), she lobbied the school committee to sever ties with Gordon College due to its discriminatory policies toward LGBTQ+ people. 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My name is Drew Darien, I'm a Professor of History at Salem State University, and I'm conducting this interview as part of the Mass Humanities -funded project: \"Through a Rainbow Lens: A Reflection on Lynn's LGBTQ+ History\". I have the honor of being joined today by Carla Moniz, a civil rights lawyer from Medford, Massachusetts, who has lived in Lynn since 2005. Can I confirm that I have your my permission to record this conversation?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2.0,37.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=37.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThanks. I see that you were born in Cambridge, grew up in Medford and that your mother was originally from Portugal. How much do you know about your mother's family and their decision to come to the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=40.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI know a fair amount. My mom came from São Miguel, Azores— the islands of Portugal —when she was eighteen to be with my father who was also from São Miguel, Portugal. So, they immigrated here from São Miguel ,Portugal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=60.0,78.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd did you grow up around a Portuguese-American community?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=78.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYes. We grew up in [the] Somerville / Cambridge area, and it was in my early years in elementary, in [or] around third grade, [was] when we moved moved to Medford. But our community was— we had a family here that...... my mom was the first. She left her family in São Miguel and, over the years, several of her siblings came. There's a very rich Portuguese community in East Cambridge. In the Somerville area at the time, especially. So much of my early childhood and upbringing was around the Portuguese community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=85.0,129.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, it's very fitting: I'm interviewing you from Inman Square today in Cambridge, so I know that community quite well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=129.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nExactly!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=137.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHow would you have described your family's class background?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=140.0,147.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nWe were low income. My mom—single mom — [indeterminable] for many years. My parents divorced when I was seven months, and she got a lot of assistance from her siblings. We lived in a triple decker. Down below [us, the] families helped with childcare. My mom worked in [an] assembly line, worked very hard to support a family. Me— at the time, it was me and my older sister. I would classify us as low income.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=147.0,181.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nYour sister Susie is about seven or eight years older than you. Were you very close growing up?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=181.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYeah. My sister is seven years older than me. [I am] very close to my older sister, Susie— in our childhood and as well as an adult. She, in many ways during my childhood, and certainly in my adolescence, was my big sister. But [she] also took very much of a parental role, given my mom was a single mom and working a lot to provide for the family. We had that sort of dynamic as a child. She took on a lot of responsibilities as a big sister. Yes, we're very close. The relationship shifted as we've got older to be much more [of one] as best friends. And then— we live very close, she actually lives in Lynn as well. I followed her!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=191.0,237.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHow do you think your, mom and your sister would have described you as a child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=237.0,248.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nDescribe me as a child? I'm sorry. I didn't hear you so well. Did you say describe me as a child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=248.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nYes. How would your mother have described you as a child?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=260.0,266.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI think my mom and my sister would have described me ..... I was very active, I loved playing sports. I [was] also very outgoing and friendly. Oftentimes, [I was] the class clown in the classroom, and I'm like..... and wanting to get folks to laugh and enjoy themselves. That was probably— I think that those are [the] sort of the things that people would, my mom and my sister would likely say about me as a kid. I was very active in sports.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=266.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWas your family very religious?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=300.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI'm sorry, [you're going] a little bit in and out. [All] I heard was \"your family,\" but I didn't get the very end part. My apologies!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=310.0,317.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHopefully, we've got a better connection now. I was just asking whether or not your family was very religious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=317.0,327.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYes. My family, we grew up catholic, attended church on Sundays, and my mom and my older sister sang in the choir. I did not. I would be the one falling asleep on the bench as they sang. I don't like [church]. But, we did go to church every Sunday and attended CCD school for many years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=327.0,354.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo, whether through your family or through church, or anything else, do you think there are certain values that you grew up with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=354.0,366.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, certainly. I'm like, I mean— although I don't identify as a catholic now, I still am a very spiritual person. Quite frankly, [I have] values even outside of spirituality, in terms of truthfulness and hardworking. I started working very early. I worked— unfortunately, but quite frankly —I started working when I was fourteen and worked many hours close to full time, if not full time. There was definitely a lot of values with regards to working hard, and sort-of needing to provide for your family, and the importance of that. In being truthful and being, you know, —making good decisions. But then, of course, there was a lot of mess with regards to the catholic church that I struggled with growing up, given I was questioning. and also [with] other things as well. Not just with regards to sexual orientation, but there was a values in there, as well, that I still hold [against them] today. I just don't necessarily resonate with the teachings of the catholic church.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=366.0,439.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWas it a difficult shift for you to move out of your community in Cambridge [and] Sommerville and go to Medford? Or was that pretty seamless for you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=439.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nWell, that shift happened. It was a —it was a difficult shift for a variety of reasons. And because— that shift happened because we were moving from my aunt and uncle's home where my sister and I, and [our] mother lived. [We lived]on the first floor, and my aunt and uncle lived in the second, and my cousins lived on the third. My mom was remarrying and so we were moving out, and my mom and my stepfather were renting in Medford, so that was [the] triggering event: their relationship and moving to Medford, where, again, we actually were living in the first floor apartment. It was acquaintances of my mom from the Portuguese community — not family members, but people that my mom knew — who lived upstairs on the second floor. So that was sort of [the] triggering event to moving to Medford. I think it was likely a more bigger event [for] my sister, in terms of the school aspect, because she was older than me. She was in high school [so that was] a bigger transition for her. For me, I was in third grade. I was gonna be going into third grade in Medford public schools[, so it was easier.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=450.0,531.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you find that your sense of humor and outgoing nature enabled you to make friends more easily?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=531.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYeah. I'm a really outgoing person. Being that extrovert[ed] naturally comes to me, and I'm like— it was very helpful. But there was definitely a shift, I remember, in the community in general at the time. Somerville was [a] pretty diverse community [with] a lot of immigrant families. Really, diversities, I think, even in terms of family compositions. I just remember moving to Medford and feeling a little bit more [of] difference in terms of that Portuguese culture that we ha[d previously] and then, like, transitioning from coming from a family, [that] was a single parent household, to now having a stepfather. Then feeling like a lot of the other kids that was kinda like [also their] family composition, you know? There was just— there was some difference. I noticed some differences with regards to that, you know? There [was] some differences in the community: my friends were my cousins, and the friends at school, they would get together with one another after school, or their birthday parties— they would have friends at birthday parties, and it wasn't really for me until, I think, closer to junior high (they called it junior high then, now I know it's all 'Middle School') was when I really started having friends after school outside of my family. Because just within our Portuguese community, your friends were your cousins and it wasn't until a little bit older [that] I noticed that shift. It was also that age, third grade [or] fourth grade, when you start really hanging out with friends outside of school. That was a shift for me to see that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=540.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you remember your first crush?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=654.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, I totally do, and that wasn't in Medford! That was in Somerville, I went to school in Somerville. I went to Winter Hill: [a] school in Somerville. she was just one of my best friends, and I always wanted to spend time with her. I was often called, throughout my adolescence, a tomboy because I always wanted to play sports. I was always defending her because [sic] she didn't wanna play sports. I remember after school, I would meet up with my sister and she would be like, \"Oh! So, you know.... who are your friends?\" It was like casual now, it's [like] what I talk to my kids about now. \"What are your friends? What [did] you do at school today?\" And for some reason, even at that early age, I would mention all of my other friends and I wouldn't mention her. Even at that young age I knew that there was something different about the way I felt about. Her name was Mary Anne. I just remember it, you know. I knew there was something different about the way I felt. I would just talk about everything else, but I wouldn't talk about her, which I always thought was interesting. Even at that young age, I was already likely getting messages from society. [I was] already feeling that [it was] maybe not a great idea to mention that one friend that you really like— that you felt a little different [towards] than other friends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=657.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWere you worried that you couldn't be truthful about how you really felt about her, without divulging a part of yourself to your sister?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=751.0,760.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nNo. I would— that would be a lot more in-depth and sophisticated for me to have [been] at that age. I don't think it was. I don't think I consciously really knew, y'know? I just think....I mean, that must have been, like, first grade maybe? You know? I don't think I had that consciousness to really understand that I was having, that I was attracted to girls. I think it was just...... I knew that something was different, that's sort of my takeaway when I think about why I did it. I don't think I was that aware. It was just like \"Something's different about what I'm feeling here and I don't know if I wanna bring it up.\" I never really shared [my feelings] about Mary Ann.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=760.0,809.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDo you remember knowing anyone who's gay or lesbian when you were, let's say, in middle school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=809.0,819.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nNo. [The] first time I met someone who I suspected [was gay] was when I was in high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=819.0,833.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nTell me about that. What was high school like for you in general, and how was it navigating your sexuality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=833.0,843.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nIt wasn't high school, actually. It was junior high. It wasn't until probably junior high that I rarely started thinking that I might be gay, and again, [it was] because I was falling for my best friend at the time. We were very close and our relationship evolved, and we started to say we cared about each other. Quite frankly, [we were] acting like we were going out. And I'm like, and then we kissed, and then I freaked, and I was like, \"Oh, she's gay, but I'm not gay!\" You know? And then I pulled away. That was all around eighth [grade,] going into high school, ninth grade. I remember she was a year younger than me, and I remember when she came up to the high school, I was very nervous that people could tell that I liked her and that she liked me. And yet, we never talked about it. We never acknowledged it. Right? But yet we were saying, you know, that we love each other, and we kissed. But it was all like, \"She's gay. I'm not.\" -type of thing. Once it became a little physical in terms of us kissing, that's when it really started to scare me. I pulled back, and I instantly got into a relationship. I'll never forget [the time] my best friend was having a family get together, and she had a boyfriend. This is, like, tenth grade. I was single in her eyes because she didn't know anything about the relationship, that quasi-relationship, I was having. I quickly got into a relationship with the boy because I did not want to have those feelings, even though I wasn't having any attraction at all to boys, and I stayed in that relationship for two years. I was extremely depressed. [I] struggled a great deal in silence with no one knowing. I was suicidal. I attempted. Fortunately[, I] did not succeed. It was right after that attempt that I, literally that evening when I woke up, I was like, \"I'm gay.\" And once I actually admitted that to myself— because even during that time, I wasn't admitting it to myself —But once I really admitted it to myself, I needed to come out, because I knew it was gonna be harder for me to not be out, and act as though there was something wrong with me. So I first told my best friend, and then I told my older sister, and then I told my older sister that I was going to be honest when school started, because this all happened at the end of eleventh grade. I was going into my senior year, and she was very nervous. She's like, \"You know, it's just one more year. Things get better after high school,\" and I said I couldn't [not come out]. I would rather deal with what comes at me than deal with what I would feel internally, by knowing I was lying about who I was when there's nothing wrong with me. And so I told my best friend because I knew she was gonna to likely deal with a lot as well. I'm sure they would make assumptions about her. There was no one out in my school. I was also junior class president, and I was voted senior class president at the end of my junior year. So I was voted senior class president, when no one knew that I was gay. With all of that, I was really nervous about starting my senior year. I wasn't gonna make any big announcements. I was just gonna be me, and if it came up, it came up. For a lot of people, it could be surprising[, but] it comes up. It comes up a lot, and often. It was like within the first few days of school. In between classes[, I] ran into a friend, and they asked to go to the mall. Back then, we went to the mall and hung out, and people watched. They asked where I was going after school, and [said,] \"Let's go to the mall.\" And I was like, \"I can't.\" I remember I tried to avoid it a little bit because I was scared. I was like, \"I can't.\" [and they were] like, \"Well, why can't you?\" I'm like, \"I'm just busy.\" \"Well, where you going?\" And then finally, I said, \"I'm going to BAGLY [The Boston Alliance of LGBTQ+ Youth].\" And they were like, \"What's BAGLY?\" And I was like, \"Boston Alliance for Gay and Lesbian Youth.\" And they're like, Isn't that for gay kids?\" And I was like, \"Yeah.\" [The] bell rang, [time for the] next class, and by the time I got out of that class, everybody knew. Then, my senior year was never the same. That's sorta what my coming to terms [experience was] with accepting that I was gay during those years— at the end of my junior year, and going into high school.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=843.0,1174.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHad you been to BAGLY previous to that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1174.0,1179.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nNo. I only went to BAGLY after I came out to myself, and to my best friend, and to my older sister. That summer— the summer right before senior year — I went to BAGLY on one or two occasions. But then I found Boston GLASS Community Center, and I personally felt just more comfortable at Boston GLASS [GLBTQ+ Adolescent Social Service] Community Center, particularly with the staff there, and the youth there. So I would, on occasion, go there, which was very weird for me because even though I lived in Medford, and I didn't go to Boston [often]. I never lied to my mom and stuff, and so here I was taking a train, which was a big deal for me, and going into Boston. But, yeah, those are the few times I went— in the summer right be right before school started, like, right in the beginning of it. And I was working full time, so didn't have a lot of time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1179.0,1251.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nHow did your best friend and your sister react to you coming out?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1251.0,1256.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nMy best friend was very supportive. I told her slowly, which probably wasn't nice. In terms of..... and I mean, slowly in the conversation. I didn't like......—I remember telling her what happened with, what she thought, was my friend. I'm like, \"Oh, and then she kissed me.\" \"Oh, my god. Why did she kiss you? Why why would she have kissed you?\" Because I kinda wanted to see how she would react, and then I was like, \"Well, because I'm gay.\" She was very supportive. I was very lucky to have her, and for her to be the first person I came out to. My sister was very supportive, and also surprised, and very nervous with regards to what it would be like in high school for me. At that [point,] she wasn't living at home anymore. She moved out when she was nineteen. So at that point, she wasn't living at home. I think that she was nervous for me in terms of what it was gonna mean with my mother, my family, and then also with school. My mother didn't find out so much later. She found out mid-year, probably mid-year in senior year. [That was] when I felt like I absolutely had to tell her, because we moved. One of my mother's biggest dreams was to own a home. She was..... I think she was probably in her mid forties, late forties when she was when she when she bought, and she bought in Tewksbury. I was finishing my senior year in Medford and driving, and going to school, so she was very removed from everything that was happening in the city after I came out. It wasn't until they got a lot of media attention that I was like, \"Okay. I gotta tell her.\" I was trying to figure [everything ]out, and get myself ready just in case I got kicked out of the home. [I wanted to be] financially able to provide from myself. I was already paying for a lot. Right? It was more about, like, where I would stay, [and] to be prepared in case I needed to leave the house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1256.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nIn certain ways, your sister might have been the ideal family member to come out to because she was both.....she's like a hybrid between a parent and a sibling, so the right amount of adult to kinda give you some guidance, but also the right amount of a peer that you could sort of relate to her? I'm just speculating about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1399.0,1422.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nAnd do you have a question with regards to that? I'm sorry. Because she wasn't the first. Lisa was, my best friend was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1422.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nRight. But the first— she was the first family member.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1431.0,1434.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nShe was the first family member. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1434.0,1435.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd, maybe it's obvious, but why her and not your mother?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1435.0,1440.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI was closer to my sister than I was to my mother. I always have been. She was my sister, but she was a parental figure. There was a a huge amount of respect and love for my sister, Susie. And I was nervous about telling her, but I knew she would accept me. I truly felt that, even though it's not as though we were a family who talked about things. I certainly never had messages with regards to LGBTQ folks, through my family. And so, yeah. It was never ever a debate that the first person in the family that was gonna know was gonna be my sister Susie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1440.0,1489.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nTell me a little bit about this media attention you got in high school. What exactly happened? And how did you come into the spotlight?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1489.0,1501.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nGood question. So [it was] after I came out. I think a lot [of this was] because of the fact I was the senior class president, it got a lot of attention. There was a lot of harassment. I was very frustrated, and upset when I found out that, in 1993, Governor Weld, included sexual orientation in the student rights bill, and there were all these recommendations. I graduated high school in 1996. There were all these recommendations about high schools having Gay-Staight Alliances, and having materials in the school. I remember going to my school library and never finding anything that had any positive messages with regards to LGBT folks. Well, and back then, quite frankly, people weren't even talking about B[isexual] and T[ransgenders]. Right? I remember all the feelings I was having previously, and being suicidal, and how much it would have helped to have had a Gay-Straight Alliance in my school, if I had had materials in my school— any sort of inclination that there was a possible resource of someone that would have been safe for me to talk to while I was questioning my sexual orientation [would have helped]. And so with that, I wanted to start a Gay-Straight Alliance. There were a handful.......I don't know if I would say 'handful'. There were a few staff, a few faculty, at the school that were supportive. My class adviser was. I told her that I was gay right when school started, and I told her that I was gonna be honest, and she was scared, and she kinda tried to dissuade me to not come out, because she was afraid of the climate. But I knew I was gonna need her support, especially in that role of senior class president and stuff. And she was very supportive. So, when things started happening I connected with her, I connected with my homeroom teacher. But they weren't very vocal outside. [They were] more vocal one-on-one with me. They supported me on stuff that I was doing, so I started a Gay-Straight Alliance. At that point, I needed a staff person to be vocal because I needed an adviser, [so] my homeroom teacher agreed to it. And after starting the Gay-Straight Alliance, we tried to, you know...... There was one student, who was a transfer student, who connected with me, who I didn't know before. He confided in me that he was gay. And then I had my friend Lisa, who identified as straight [and] who would come to the group. Then we did an awareness wall, and it got lit on fire. It was in a glass cont— at our school, they had glass containers that you could put displays in, with metal and stuff. The whole metal thing melted [when it] got lit on fire. Flyers got put on the wall that [said, \"]Carla's dead.\" One whole wall that covered a whole hallway, you know, said \"Carla's dead.\" [Another said, \"]Dyke,\" [which was] on my locker. There was a lot of things happened. And I remember in the winter, the part that triggered me to look for outside resources deal with what was happening, besides my constant meetings with the principal and the superintendent— who were telling me I'm the only one, and why was I wearing my rainbow necklace? And to not wear it, etc. [Once,] I was going in my car after school, and an ice scraper hit me in the back. I got in the car. I didn't even turn around. Like, before I was, like, always vigiliant and looking at what was happening, what was going on. But in that moment, probably out of just pure exhaustion of being in English class, and being pulled out to talk to the superintendent, I just got in my car and drove, and went to work. And I was like, \"Whoa, what are you doing, Carla?\" You know? And so, I found out about a Safe Schools program in Massachusetts, and I filed a complaint against my high school, for not ensuring the safety of myself and other students who are questioning, or who identify as gay. And as a result of all that, it got a lot of media attention. The Medford Citizen [Newspaper] did an article on the fact that the Gay-Straight Alliance was started. The comments section was a free for all, with a lot of negativity. And then, of course, because I had a 'title', as senior class president, people could even write letters to me, and be protected because it wasn't like they were just sending a letter to a student, it was a role, a title, allegedly —is what I was told at the time. And I got letters, I remember, from the church in Medford Square. They put up a sign. They used their billboard in front of their church. You know how a lot of churches have [signs where you] change the messaging? They put up a sign: \"MHS [Medford High School] students and staff: homosexuality is a sin.\" That particular church sent me a letter telling me that I was gonna die of AIDS. [It was] saying it was to the senior class president, knowing that it was the senior class president who started the Gay-Straight Alliance, who came out as a lesbian. That's where the media attention came from. It came from those things: from the church putting those things, from the filing of the complaint, from starting the Gay-Straight Alliance. They got media attention as a result of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1501.0,1873.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThat's all very astounding. There's no question. You carried a lot of heavyweight, and it was good that you were able to seek out and secure the support of some adults in your school. But by and large, it sounds like this was your own initiative, something that you did on your own. I'm wondering where do you think that fortitude came from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1873.0,1910.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI think it came a lot from my upbringing. From my sister, mainly, and being strong, and needing to push through, and thinking about others. Growing up with Susie, we pushed through a lot in terms of family dynamics. It was a lot of discussion, particularly around when I wanted to play sports, and that wasn't really seen as the 'girl' thing to do, and [that] it was more important to learn how to cook and clean— even sometimes [my parents] viewed that even more so than education —a need to not just think of yourself, to think of others. I couldn't help but think, \"Geez.\" I was struggling for all those years alone, not knowing that I was fine. There are others. It's not just me, even though that's what the principal at the time was trying to say to me. I knew there were others, even though I didn't know them at the time. And I was just thinking, \"My god, what must they be feeling seeing me being out, and being treated this way.\" What supports can be there? So I think It was just a combination of, yes, who I am, and I think who I am has a lot to do with my older sister Susie, and thinking about trying for it to be a better environment for those who come after you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=1910.0,2037.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, uhm—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2037.0,2039.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nSorry, I didn't think I was gonna get emotional.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2039.0,2042.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nYou know, one of the things that they train you to do when you're an oral historian is not just to listen, but to be neutral and objective. Yet, there are times when one feels the need to violate that principle, and I'll just briefly say that, that was all very, commendable and bold. You graduated from Medford High in 1996, and then eventually graduate[d] from UMass Boston in 2003. Presumably, you took some time off in between high school and college. What were you doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2042.0,2087.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nSo I wanted to go to college. [It was a] big goal of mine. My sister was the first to go to college in our family, and my mom['s] highest level of education was third grade, in Portugal. Third grade is different than what it is here. Third grade is probably more like middle school there. You know? It's a little bit different, but she didn't graduate from high school. It was a big deal to be able to go to college. But my senior year in high school, I went through a lot, and I didn't feel it because I was just going, and going, and going. I was just dealing with whatever was coming my way. It wasn't until....—and then I moved out the day of my high school graduation. My family home was not a healthy one, so I always intended on moving out. I moved out the day of high school graduation. I actually moved in with a lesbian couple who also sent me a letter to [the] 'senior class president', saying that they had room available. And that was my first roommate situation. That's how I found them. I signed up and I got admitted to college [and] went to UMass Boston. My first semester was really hard because it was almost as though I was coming down from everything that happened in my senior year. It was really processing all that happened. And I quickly realized, early in the semester that I wasn't ready. I needed to take time for myself. I needed to figure out my new surroundings, my new home, my new life. And, in many ways, also cope with what I went through in the senior year, which I just didn't process while I was going through it. I couldn't. I had to keep going forward. And so I withdrew. I withdrew early in the first semester. I don't even know if there's a transfer for it, quite frankly. Then I reenrolled the following fall, so I had [had] a year off then. And I got offered a position at Boston GLASS Community Center. GLASS stands for a Gay Lesbian Adolescent Social Services. It serves LGBTQ+ youth [from] thirteen to twenty five. [It served,] predominantly, youth of color. I started there as a youth coordinator, and then I became the outreach coordinator, and then [I] ultimately became the assistant director there. I worked there for about seven years before making the decision— which I always thought I was gonna go pursue a career in law —and that's when I left Boston GLASS, was when I went to law school in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2087.0,2279.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWhat was your undergraduate major?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2279.0,2283.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nAt UMass Boston, I majored in Political Science and Sociology, and then I also did a concentration in Women's Studies and Public Policy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2283.0,2294.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWere you politically active on campus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2294.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI was working full time, so I did not have what a lot of what people traditionally think of a college experience. I was rushing to class, washing out, and going to work. I didn't make any sort of friends in college. My friends were my coworkers. [I] often had friends who are older, as a result, because they were coworkers, because a lot of my colleagues were older than me. And a lot of my friends came out of Boston GLASS, as well. We created a college night, and we would have a discussion group, and discuss topics. Now, I was facilitating the discussions. The center would close at eight o'clock, and we would reopen just for that college night. So, I also made college friends through there, but I honestly did not have much more of an experience being at UMass Boston, [as] a student [or] a social way, or in an activism way. I just wasn't really present on campus. I was there to get the degree!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2298.0,2375.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo you must have been working, and going to school during the 9/11 attacks?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2375.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYes. I was in a class. It was in a actually a Black Studies class. I'll never forget. When the attacks happened, we quickly had to evacuate. They had concerns with regards to the JFK [John Fitzgerald Kennedy] building that was right beside UMass Boston— a federal building. Yeah. I was that's I was, a student there [at that time.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2381.0,2405.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid that event have any effect on you, or shape your view of the world in any way?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2405.0,2413.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI mean, certainly it did in terms of the attack happening here on US soil. It's something that I [had] never experienced before. I had certainly been exposed [to similar events], through my education and through research, with regards to historical events that have occurred in our country, domestically during civil rights movements, and with regards to being attacked in various ways, also thinking about previous wars, etc. But, I never personally experienced anything like that [before]. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2413.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nOn the more positive side while you were in college, Massachusetts passes the marriage equality act. Do you remember when that happened, and what you thought about it at the time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2449.0,2465.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nWas that while I was in college? I'm trying to—","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2465.0,2468.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nRight when you were ending [your time there.]","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2468.0,2470.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYeah, because I remember being in law school. But, that could be because of the court decision, because I remember my first year of law school. [I was] starting at CUNY [City University of New York] in New York and Katie— Katie's my wife. —and Katie and I moved to New York. [I] remembering wishing I was in Massachusetts when the Goodridge Decision came out, and seeing all the media coverage, and the community. [And the law] passing and then having my professors, as well as my law school students, being like, \"Check out Massachusetts.\" You know? [Massachusetts] being the first state with regards to passing same sex marriage [laws]. I don't, I— my recollection [isn't great.] Maybe it's just because....—I just remember the media coverage and, for some reason, [what] was sticking out to me is the photographs of people waiting in line in Cambridge to get their marriage license. All these photographs coming out. I remember me being in college, my first year in college. I'm sorry— My first year in law school at CUNY, in New York.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2470.0,2545.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, as part of this project, we interviewed Susan Shepherd and Marcia Hams, who were the first couple in Massachusetts to get their marriage license, in Cambridge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2545.0,2559.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, that's probably why! I remember, yeah. I remember Cambridge. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2559.0,2563.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nBut they they were living in Lynn at the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2563.0,2566.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, really?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2566.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nYes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2567.0,2567.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI didn't know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2567.0,2570.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nI'm sure you'll be interested in in listening to their story, as well. But tell me how you and Katie met one another.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2570.0,2580.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nSo Katie and I were friends first. We met initially through Boston GLASS Community Center. She attended there, and then she stopped attending, and then we ran into each other out in the community, and we became friends. And at the time, I was in a relationship. We were friends for a while, maybe about a year and a half, or so, before we became more. We've been together [since]. We actually just celebrated our twenty third anniversary this past March, March third.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2580.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nCongratulations! Was it difficult to make the transition to move to New York, or did you just know it was temporary, and that you were gonna come back to Massachusetts?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2616.0,2633.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI don't, I'm— it was difficult in the sense that I'm such a Boston girl. I never imagined leaving Boston. I was living in Boston at the time, in Jamaica Plain. It was hard for me to picture, quite frankly, being away from my sister Susie. When I say we're close, we're really close. We talk every day, on the weekends we get together, you know? And so I wondered, like, how was that gonna play out? I'm gonna be three-and-a-half, four hours away. But at the same time, I was excited, because, hello, it's New York. And also, when I was looking at law schools, I was looking at.....—I was fortunate enough...... ..—the law, in itself, is overall conservative. And everything I've heard, with regards to law school, quite frankly, you don't hear really rosy picture about the law school experience. So if I was gonna be doing law school for three years, I wanted to ensure that I was going to a progressive law school. So my choices of schools were limited, when those [are]being your priorities. I wanted to go to either Northeastern Law School, or CUNY. I was fortunate enough to get into both, but when I visited both, I loved CUNY— the faculty. I love the........—even though at the time.....—now they have beautiful, gorgeous building in Long Island, but at the time, they literally were housed in a small junior high building. They were in transition. But it had so much life, in that building. I remember walking through, and seeing everything on the walls about the student organizations, and reading about the professors, and, quite frankly, the representation in the professors. They were doing what they were saying they were doing. And I think Northeastern, although a great institution, I felt it was a better fit for me at CUNY Law— even though Northeastern was literally down the street from me. So, I was either gonna be going down the street and not needing to uproot my whole life, or I was gonna be moving to New York City. So, I made the decision to go to New York City, and I was thrilled. That was early in me and Katie's relationship— although not our friendship, we knew each other from friendship, but our relationship. I remember I was nervous if Katie was gonna come, and I was thrilled that I didn't have ask, because I didn't wanna put that pressure on her. And she said, \"I would love to go with you, if you want me to go.\" And so we went together, and we moved in together, got our apartment in New York, and went through that experience of going to law school, me going to law school, which tested our relationship. It was amazing. I saw a lot of relationships, people [coming] into law school in relationships who, by the time we graduated, had split apart. That was not us. We were stronger.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2633.0,2830.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd what brought you to Lynn?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2830.0,2833.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nMy sister. Yeah. I don't know if you see a theme. My sister, Susie, got into a relationship with her now husband, Ron. She called me one day, and I was in New York, right? And she was actually— she would come up to New York almost every weekend. I'd be like, \"Okay, you can't. I need to study,\" you know? And she was dating Ron, and they were moving in together, and she bought a condo in Lynn. I was, quite frankly, floored, because Lynn was just not on my radar. We are Portuguese. We love the beach. We love the ocean, so we would come to Nahant Beach when I was a kid, but we I don't ever really remember being in the Lynn area. And so when Susie told me Lynn, I'm like, \"What are you talking about? What is in Lynn?\" You know? And I was worried about diversity and everything because we always talk —and she was buying. Like, to me, when you buy, you buy. When not necessary— we would not— I mean, I wasn't out of the mindset of: \"Oh, you can buy and sell and move.\" I always thought that as adults, we would live close together. So if she's telling me she's buying a condo, she's planning on being there long term. [That was] instantly my thought. And I was like, \"What is going on?\" Katie felt the same way? And [Susie] was like, \"No. You're gonna love it. You'll see when you come back in the summer.\" And I'm like, \"Don't think that I'm just gonna go follow you everywhere go. You're making this decision to go to Lynn. I really like JP [Jamaica Plain].\" But then when Katie and I....— I stayed at my.........— I had a fellowship here that following summer, and I stayed at my sister and Ron's house that summer, and I loved it. And then I'm like, \"She lives near the ocean in the Diamond District of Lynn.\" And so I would go swimming at King's Beach. At the time, there were more days where the water was clean. I don't know, we're dealing with some issues there, hopefully [ones] that will get resolved. And I was like, \"Wow, this is beautiful. There's so many natural resources and lakes, and Lynn Woods, and everything.\" And so, Katie and I talked. We talked about wanting to look in Lynn. And when we were moving back, I.....—and that's how I came to Lynn. Susie is the one who kind of put it in my thinking, of exploring Lynn as a possibility as a community to live in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2833.0,2997.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWas it important to you that there was a LGBTQ population there, or did you even know that before you moved there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=2997.0,3007.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, no. No. No. No. No. That's why I was upset. I don't think because I felt like, \"Okay. I'm gonna start looking at Lynn because my sister moved there.\" And yet there are all these things that matter to me in terms of diversity, not just with regards to the LGBTQ community, but even with regards to race. [That] was important to me because [don't] I wanna live in a community that's diverse? But also I was thinking about, \"Yeah, we might have children. I want my children to live in a community that is diverse, and one that Katie and I feel comfortable being ourselves [in,]\"—because we always are. We live in our truth, so those are always concerns. So before we looked, right after I got off the phone with Susie, I started looking at Lynn. Now, Katie and I both knew Lynn because of Fran's Place. yeah, we did the club scene in Boston, and we knew there was a club at Fran's Place. We never went to Fran's Place, but we knew where it was. We drove by it, but we didn't— I don't necessarily know.... Like, that was the only thing I really knew about Lynn was, like, \"Oh, this is Lesbian bar in Fran's Place.\" I never went there, but what we would always hear, in my age group, was that it was a bar that was mainly for older lesbians. Older lesbians go there, that's kinda, like, what I heard when I was in my twenties in Boston, when we would go dancing in Boston. So, I knew that. Katie and I were like, \"Well, isn't that club Fran's Places. Is that still there?\" You know? And then I did some searches, and there was a huge article in the Lynn Item [Newspaper,] randomly— I remember reading it —about the gays coming to the Lynn Diamond District. There was this article about that. I actually don't know if I found it, or if my sister sent it to me. And I was like, \"Oh, check that out.\" I was surprised, because it just wasn't on my radar. So I saw that, of course, that made me feel good. And I was like, \"Oh, is this kinda like Jamaica Plain?\" When I lived in Jamaica Plain, Jamaica Plain was not popular, and I loved it. I missed, actually, the old Jamaica Plain. I know Jamaica Plain is very popular now, and when I moved to Jamaica Plain, yeah, there was some gay communit[ies] there, but it was nothing like what it's been the past several years. There was actually more Dominican families, a lot of mom and pop shops on Center Street. A lot changed. And when I got that article from Susie— and I remember Susie would be like, \"Oh,\" and I'm like, \"Is there a lot of gay people moving into Lynn now?\" Because it just—I never heard of Lynn as a place where a lot of gay people were going to live. But that one article, and then knowing the connection that Fran's Place has been there for decades. I was like, \"Oh, Katie, maybe we just don't know. Maybe this is just the up-and-coming next neighborhood, or something that's always been there, that we just weren't aware of, because it's families.\" You know? We were young, in our twenties, so we were just learning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3007.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nThat must have made it much more appealing for you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3221.0,3223.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, yeah, especially that article, because it was a positive article. It was the cover of the Item. I remember it. And then there was another article I remember, and it was showed two men saying they bought a condo. I don't know if that was, like, a year or two later, but yeah, it made us happy. Right? Because it made us hopeful. We knew that Lynn had a rich diversity, in terms of a variety of different race and ethnicit[ies], but we didn't have a sense with regards to how it would be for LGBTQ folks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3223.0,3266.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nDid you ever make it to Fran's?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3266.0,3268.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nOh, we never did. Can you believe that? I know! We never did, and we would close by too. We're in the Diamond District, a couple of blocks away from the ocean, and in North Shore Community College is right there. It's right across North Shore Community College. We drove by it, and we always thought it was so cool to have it in our neighborhood, and have the big pink triangle that it had in the font, with Fran's. But we never went. Nothing intentional about not going or anything. It was just more [of] the particular time in our life, and what we were focusing on and doing. Quite frankly, around that time, we weren't really going to clubs and bars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3268.0,3320.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo, tell me how you got involved in parents organizing for a better education.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3320.0,3327.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nYeah, so it was probably around........we had our daughter, our first child, Devin, in 2010. I was practicing law at Greater Boston Legal Services doing immigration work, representing victims of sexual assault and domestic violence, and victims of crimes. [I was] assisting them in getting their legal status in the United States. I really had a strong passion for education, and I wasn't able to work on that in my professional capacity. But I wanted to do it on my volunteer time. And I previously was on the board of GLSEN [Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Netowrk] Massachusetts, so I was doing work around education and those issues, being on the board of GLSEN Mass. And then I started to look within my own community, and looking at the school system that my own children would be attending. It was around 2013, maybe, around 2013 or so, yhat I found out about a group called Lynn Parents Organizing for a Better Education. The acronym that we used was LCOBE. And although I wasn't a parent of a child who was in the school system yet, I was a parent who cared. And so I started attending, and we would meet weekly. I met some great folks in the community. They are a part of an a larger organization called Neighbor- to-neighbor, that supported LCOBE. That's how we got that's how I started getting connected with them. I just found out about them and I attended a meeting. I enjoyed it, and I kept going. And they would work on initiatives to help parents, and connect with Lynn Public Schools, with regards to....—particularly there was a lot, with regards to multi-label learners, disciplinary issues. And, also, we ended up also tackling an issue with regards to LGBT+ with Gordon College, and the relationship that Lynn Public Schools had with Gordon College. I brought that up at a meeting, and I was giving some information with regards to it. But that that's how I got started with LCOBE.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3327.0,3484.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nAnd what specifically was the conflict with Gordon College?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3484.0,3491.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nSo, Gorden College is a private college, and a religious institution: a religious private college. They had a relationship with Lynn Public Schools that I was not aware of for many years. And the relationship had to do with fellowships and internships, and with working with students in the schools. And that year, in 2014, I believe, the Gordon College president had requested an exemption from President Obama's administration so that they could discriminate against LGBT people, and not hire LGBT people. So you could, as a religious private institution, request an exemption from enforcement laws, with regards to employment practices. Under the Obama administration, it was just discriminatory to exclude someone based on their sexual orientation and gender identity. You had to apply for an exemption. So they applied for that exemption, and in that letter [they were] openly admitting that they did not wanna hire LGBT individuals. And then, in addition, they also have, in their student policies, that any homosexual behavior is unacceptable, so with both of those things....—and there was a lot of attention with regards to those exceptions, if I remember correctly, in 2014. Quite frankly, that's how I became aware of it, through the media. And so it was concerning to me that Lynn Public Schools, a public institution, was collaborating with and entering into agreements with Gordon College to have interns and students coming only from Golden College, who explicitly were discriminating against students and in their hiring practices. And when I shared my concerns with the group, they felt it as well. There was going to be a vote at the school committee [as] to whether or not to continue. There was gonna be a discussion, and then a vote, as to whether to continue the relationship. So we started a campaign, and I drafted a template letter to make it easier for folks to forward [them] on. I left sections for people to add their own personal statement if they'd like. But we were trying to make it easy as possible. We [had] such a short time frame from when we got noticed with regards to the school committee. And so all of us in the group spread it out to all the connections we had, that email list. We contacted all the school committee members personally ourselves, and encourage others to do it. And then we also encourage people to show up, to show up. We strategically talked about who we should have speak, because we knew there was gonna be a lot of people speaking. There were also a lot of community organizations that got involved, as well, like NAGLY came [North Shore Alliance for GLBTQ+ Youth]. They also spoke. There were also folks in Gordon College who came and they spoke. It was a packed house. It was going out the door. And we wanted to be respectful of the process and of the meeting, but we also thought about ways during the meeting that we could show our, concern for students. I remember we all had signs in our hands for different points to raise up during the meeting, so that there would be that physical demonstration. Yeah, and so a few of us spoke. I was one of the parents who spoke at the school committee. It was a very, very close vote. It was very disheartening to hear some of the comments made by school committee members, at the time. And it was also wonderful for the ones that spoke about the importance of equality, and the importance of the messaging that we were teaching to our children. It was a close vote. And I remember the neighbor-to-neighbor staff person who was the facilitator for our LCOBE group, because it was so contested. I'll never forget, she came up behind me, and she said, \"Woah, Carla. You may need to move outside of Lynn.\"— Because of the climate in the room.It really looked......—like the comments that were being said, not just with regards to this particular vote in Gordon College, but overall about LGBTQ people and communities and stuff. I looked at her and I was like, \"I can't believe this.\" I couldn't believe [there were] comments like, \"You should wait.\" \"Let's just wait and see what happens. Things are slow.\" And, \"Why shouldn't we still have this relationship with the school? It benefits us. We get free services from them. The budget is tight.\" So, yeah. But luckily, the vote did [pass. It] was a three to four vote. It was a one person vote that made it, and they did decide to sever ties with Gordon College. Yeah. That was in 2014, and then it was in 2019— Now I have a second child, and my first child is older. I'm a lot busier as a result, and I'm not as active in the community in Lynn. But some folks reached out, and told me: \"You won't believe it. It's coming up again. They're trying to work with Golden College again, and nothing's changed.\" Golden College positions remains the same. It was actually one of the city counselors. I believe it was Coco [Alinsung], who sent me the message, who's now a city counselor for ward three. I'm in ward four. I was so disheartened by that, and yet I didn't have the connections and networks [anymore,] because I wasn't actively participating in the group, and the group wasn't in existence anymore. So, I did some week outreach to folks I was still connected with. [I] sent letters again, etcetera. And luckily, at that meeting at the school committee, it didn't go anywhere. They said they were gonna put it on for a vote, but it never went on for a vote, is the last I heard. But, yeah, they tried, again, to join with Golden College again. But luckily, it didn't go anywhere. There was not even a vote in 2019. They said they were gonna try bringing it up again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3491.0,3929.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWould you consider Lynn to be an LGBTQ friendly city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3929.0,3943.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI pause, because it depends on what your standard is. Do I feel safe in my city? When I go shopping, or when I walk down my street? Do I embrace my partner? Do I hold her hand? I do. I do feel safe in that way. However, that, to me, is not the only marker as to whether or not a city is LGBT friendly. I do look at the governance of the city, and the effort on the part of the city with regards to ensuring that all their practices and policies are inclusive of all. I don't think we're there yet. I think that a lot of strides have been made, often at the pushing of— as it is in most situations —of people in the community. But I think we still have a long way to go, so I wouldn't necessarily say, \"Oh, yes. The city is LGBT friendly.\" I know sometimes you have those articles where you have a scorecard, in terms of one to ten. Yeah, it's a good place to live. I do like living in Lynn. I feel safe in Lynn as a lesbian, with my partner, in the areas that I go to. I can't speak to all areas. I certainly can't speak to all queer people's experiences in Lynn, but I know that there's a lot of work to be done institutionally in Lynn. I've mentioned on social media posts, with the mayor, with city council members. Even things that seem so simple, but yet aren't. They seem so little, yet [that] aren't. The daddy-daughter dance that continues to happen every year. That's not inclusive, not only of LGBT families, but of single [parents] families, of sons, of daughters. It's not inclusive of children who are being raised by grandparents. It still continues to have such as stronghold in the community of Lynn. I've attempted, at different times in living here, raising that concern. It was, what? Maybe a year or two years ago that the mayor added, in small font on the sign, \"All are welcomed.\" Certainly, that may protect them legally. but the sentiment and the trueness as to which regards to inclusivity is clear when, in big bold letters across all of it, it says, \"daddy-daughter dance.\" All of the advertisement and publicity on it, is all focused on daddy-daughter dance. I've reached out this year, again, to city council members. This year I did all of them. Last year, I did selective, and to the mayor. I'm urging them to do as what other cities and towns have done. Our neighboring city Swampscott, they recognized the fact that the daddy daughter dance wasn't inclusive, and they changed the name to 'sweetheart family dance.' And they explained why they chose to do that: they wanted to mirror the values that their town has. And so, Lynn is behind in that area. When I think about how hard it's been for recognition of that, for just [the] changing of a name of a dance, it makes you pause and wonder what other conversations of policies and procedures, that I'm not aware of, and others are not aware of, that are also not inclusive. Those are some some of the things that I think about and experience. I have conversations with my daughter, who has seen the flyer, and doesn't see her family represented in that flyer. My daughter goes actually to the Charter School in Lynn, and the school doesn't advertise that dance at their school. So, she saw it through social media, and from the discussion with me. Yeah, so those are some of the other markers that I would look at, in terms of being able to say confidently that Lynn is an LGBTQ friendly city. That's why it's a loaded question, sorry. Because I do feel safe. I enjoyed. I live here. I've stayed, but Iwould like to see more. You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=3943.0,4266.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nOh, it's, in certain ways, a nonsensical question. You know? What exactly is an LGBTQ+ friendly city?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4266.0,4274.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nExactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4274.0,4274.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nIt's not an either or proposition. It's continuum, and there's progress, and then there are aspects that have been retrograde. Let me just ask you quickly, if you could step into the shoes, or the mind's eye, of people who are very attached to the daddy daughter dance. What, from their perspective, do you think that attachment is all about?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4274.0,4308.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nI've thought about that. I think it's nostalgia. I think it's tradition, and the notion of tradition, that is often used to exclude. The arguments been made on a number of things. I think it's around an old notion of parenthood, and a relationship between the father and their children. I think when those activities were started, perhaps—I think you'd have historically to look it up, but, fathers, perhaps were not that active in children's lives. This notion that you needed to create an event, specifically for girls —because, of course, fathers are active with their sons playing sports, etc. But for girls, there needed to be an event. I think it's in sort of these very outdated, historical nostalgia kind of things, that it's with regards to. And the notion of teaching how a daughter should be treated by a man: showing up with the flowers, and opening the door, and the dance. Right? Those things that also, quite frankly. Especially if you're going to have a be an exclusive event, and not a recognition of other families, is trying to suggest as that's the only thing that is a possibility for their daughter. But yeah, I would imagine that it's rooted in in some of those things: tradition, nostalgia, sex roles, gender roles. But, you'd have to ask them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4308.0,4426.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nSo, last question. There, certainly has been a lot of progress on LGBTQ+ rights. On the other hand, [in] the last five to ten years or so, it does feel like there's a bit of a backlash. Two questions related to that. The first is: what do you make of that? And then the second is, do you generally feel optimistic about the future, in that regard?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4426.0,4461.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nSuch great questions. I think that [regression is] true of a lot of things when you look, historically, at various civil rights movements and rights. I remember, with more LGBT youth coming out, Massachusetts used [to put out] a risk behavior survey. They do it every two years, typically. It gives good data points in terms of what our youth are facing. And when you had more youth coming out, there were statistics of more bullying: when there was more visibility, when there was more gaining of rights. Especially with the political climate, the ability to have permission to spew hate, and interpretations of law [were being upheld] that, quite frankly, may not be accurate. That [inaccuracy of the law] perpetuates discrimination. We've seen [that] affect LGBT people. We've certainly seen [those laws] affect woman and persons with vaginal genitalia. [We have seen them and ] transgender people as scapegoats, I think, right now, we're facing a great deal. I wanna be hopeful. Of course, I do. But the swing was swift. I understand that there's [a trend that] takes step two steps forward, [then] takes [one] step back, but I certainly didn't think that my children would be at a place and time where, in many respects, they are facing a society where many areas— particularly my daughter —has less rights than I did. I think that it's a reminder that we can't relax. We can't take, for granted, the progress that is done, because it can be taken away. Yes, the law is important and education is important. It goes hand-in-hand or it doesn't have the impact. So, I remain hopeful that the next generation will see progress again, and probably progress in a way that is even more inclusive than I think I saw myself, within the LGBTQ community. I think our young generation[s] are teaching me a lot with regards to inclusivity, and the way of viewing it. I'm very hopeful when I think of them. I'm not so hopeful in terms of the near future, and everything that's happening. I'm like, \"Okay. Where's this next generation?\" Yeah. I'm very hopeful when I think of them, when I think of this next generation coming up. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4461.0,4681.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Andrew Darien\n\nWell, that seems like a a fitting place to end, with the hopefulness of the next generation. Thank you for that sentiment. And, of course, thank you for your time speaking so forthrightly and openly about your experiences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4681.0,4698.0"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/transcript/68891/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Carla Moniz\n\nThanks so much for all the work you're doing with this project. It's so important that we preserve this information so that generations from now can learn about our history, [which] can often be ignored and silenced and put away. I really appreciate all work that you and others are doing, to preserve this information, with regards to Lynn's history, with regards to the LGBTQ+ community.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=4698.0,4728.655"}]},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Carla Moniz index [Index]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My parents immigrated here from San Miguel Portugal.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=41.175,192.135"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was very close to my older sister.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=192.135,266.015"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I liked to make people laugh, have fun.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=266.015,328.60498"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We grew up Catholic.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=328.60498,366.495"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I value truthfulness and hard work.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=366.495,654.25"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I felt something different for Mary Anne.","format":"text/plain","label":{"en":["Title"]}}],"target":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496#t=654.25,846.99"},{"id":"https://througharainbowlens.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2385/collection_resources/127555/file/239496/index/83147/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"supplementing","body":[{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I freaked. 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